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Tuesday, May 28th 2019, 2:26am

Feeling every bump in the road

Hi all, I have recently aquired a 2012 2x4 3 d4d. I've noticed that I can literally feel every bump or uneven road surface through the steering wheel as a shock through my hands. Recently did a trip to Struisbaai for the first time with the Fortuner (we've done this hundreds of times through previous years with different vehicles) and it was quite exhausting on the hands and arms. I've not even done gravel road yet but would not even want to think about "sinkplaat pad " ! Is it normal ? Or could it be shocks ? Tyres are at 2bar.

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Tuesday, May 28th 2019, 9:07am

RE: Feeling every bump in the road

Hi all, I have recently aquired a 2012 2x4 3 d4d. I've noticed that I can literally feel every bump or uneven road surface through the steering wheel as a shock through my hands. Recently did a trip to Struisbaai for the first time with the Fortuner (we've done this hundreds of times through previous years with different vehicles) and it was quite exhausting on the hands and arms. I've not even done gravel road yet but would not even want to think about "sinkplaat pad " ! Is it normal ? Or could it be shocks ? Tyres are at 2bar.
Mine's the same, 2012 4x4, tyres at 2.2 - used to it by now and does not bother me. on gravel roads make to deflate your tyres and hang on........ :pump: :lol:
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Tuesday, May 28th 2019, 3:30pm

Ha ha ! Thanks JPC !

I deflated to 1.8 today to check and it seems slightly better... I will be able to test on my way home this afternoon (well known road)

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Wednesday, May 29th 2019, 2:35pm

Common issue on all Fortuners. Suspension does not soak up the small road imperfections. Apparently Fox shocks make a massive difference but it is extremely expensive....
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Wednesday, May 29th 2019, 9:45pm

Common issue on all Fortuners. Suspension does not soak up the small road imperfections. Apparently Fox shocks make a massive difference but it is extremely expensive....

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Thursday, May 30th 2019, 8:29am

Tough Dog also sells adjustable shocks that might help.
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Thursday, May 30th 2019, 1:11pm

I find different tyres make this worse, if I run the Bridgestone Duelers @ 1.8 bar the ride is decent, if I run the Cooper ST Maxx it's much bumper @ 2.1bar,yes pressures make a difference but the heavier thicker sidewall also make it bumpier

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Thursday, May 30th 2019, 1:26pm

Definitely! Stiffer sidewall tyres make the issue much more pronounced :(
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Monday, June 3rd 2019, 12:22pm

Play around with your tyre pressures, I had my Fortuner 1.8 bar for every day driving without load on the back and 2.2 or 2.4 when loaded.
Get yourself a tyre pressure system, then you can deflate more and monitor the temperatures, your pressure is really important as well as tyre choice, remember the harder your sidewall the more you need to deflate to get the same result.

But regarding to suspension, 90% of your comfort is on the shocks but the problem comes in when the vehicle is loaded and the suspension drops, this obviously lowers your ride height and reduce the distance between your bump stop and chassis - thus reduces the shock absorber's stroke and gives the shock less travel distance before the suspension bottoms out.
You can check on the opposite side of the bump stop if there are rubber impact marks on the chassis, if this is the case you need to either raise the suspension to get a longer travel for the shock.
For example, if you catch a heavy ball but you only grab the ball very low... its almost impossible to stop the ball before it hits the ground vs if you catch the ball high... you can absorb the weight.

Remember the std shocks are really not designed for the best performance, better shocks will give you a huge improvement on your handling and comfort, the standard shocks will bottom out a lot faster vs performance shocks will absorb the bumps in the road much better.
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Wednesday, June 5th 2019, 1:26pm

Hi Cobus, in your opinion what would you estimate the improvement (in %) be in the absorption of road imperfections with Amada vs OEM (shock replacement only). Currently every little bump is transmitted into the cabin so I want to gauge if it is really worth replacing the shock only to resolve this issue....
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Wednesday, June 5th 2019, 2:55pm

Mmmm.... percentage improvement... if you asked lift that is easy... 40 or 50mm
But % ride quality improvement is really difficult to say as its a feeling and personal opinion to say,
But let say if you could improve 100% and get the same drive quality as a Prado, I would say by changing the shocks around 60%
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Wednesday, June 5th 2019, 3:21pm

Ok, thanks...that at least gives me some idea :)
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Thursday, June 13th 2019, 9:50am

Hi Cobus. It took me a while to get used to my 2015 Toyota Fortuner 3.0D4D 4X2 Automatic and after testing a few of the newer 7-seater vehicles available I prefer my vehicle but would like some help to soften the ride a bit. Problem is that I also want to lower the vehicle as well. I have dropped a request on your website. Let me know if its best to rather call.

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Thursday, June 13th 2019, 12:05pm

Hi Cobus. It took me a while to get used to my 2015 Toyota Fortuner 3.0D4D 4X2 Automatic and after testing a few of the newer 7-seater vehicles available I prefer my vehicle but would like some help to soften the ride a bit. Problem is that I also want to lower the vehicle as well. I have dropped a request on your website. Let me know if its best to rather call.
just a question, but why would you want to lower a Fortuner? Higher yes, but lower....... ?(
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Thursday, June 13th 2019, 1:23pm

Hi - Looks like there is still a lot more I need to learn. I have spoken to 4X4 Megaworld, Ironman and a few others and they all asked my the same as you JPC. I then spoke to Norman from Econo Lift and he gave me a lot more detail on why I should lift and not drop but pointed out there may be issues with my shocks after I told him my story. He recommended that I should have my shocks tested by a 3rd party first before looking at anything further - Not sure why Toyota Midrand/ The Glen did not pick up any issues with the shocks.

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Thursday, June 13th 2019, 3:22pm

Dynojet, please read my comments earlier, why I would rather raise the suspension than dropping,
One easily compare a normal ride height with those of race cars which are worlds apart,
I you want a "cool" or rather different looking Fortuner then you can drop it... which I wont recommend as you will be changing the stroke on the shocks which might just give you a horrible and dangerous drive
The Toyota dealers are not qualified to test shocks, in fact my opinion you need to get the shocks removed and test on a shock dyno, these fancy shock test machines you drive the vehicle on and get a print out are not accurate, specs differ with different tyre pressures and tyre types
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Thursday, June 13th 2019, 6:06pm

Hi All,
When look at my fortuner from the back the left,passenger side is lower than driver side
I have measured and the diff is about 20mm
Is this coils sagging or shocks gone bad
Any advice appreciated

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Thursday, June 13th 2019, 7:51pm

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Hi All,
When look at my fortuner from the back the left,passenger side is lower than driver side
I have measured and the diff is about 20mm
Is this coils sagging or shocks gone bad
Any advice appreciated
I believe it is a common problem.
Mine the same,but not that much.
No idea why, I have OME coils.

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Friday, June 14th 2019, 9:18am

Hi Cobus, you are 100% correct. The shocks are defective and this was further confirmed when the tech explained the tyre condition. The next question is which shocks should I use:
The OME or Monroe or Bilstein or what do you recommend. I will always check here first in future.

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Friday, June 14th 2019, 10:22am

I recommend AMADAXTREME... great results with the Amada's!
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