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Saturday, January 26th 2019, 10:46am

No more expensive tyres.... fitted something different

I had it with expensive tyres, personally I dont see myself spending almost R20k for tyres... so after some feedback from customers Im going Chinese....

Friends and customers of mine from the Kalahari to rocky farms has being using some of these brands over the last two years with great success.... some of them even claim they get better km's on the Chinese tyres than some of the big brands like BF's and Coopers.... on their application. As the harder tyres tend to chip and tear block out of the tyres.

Im running on 285/75R16's on my Fortuner... BF's and the others works out ave R4500 per tyre... Thus R18000 for 4 tyres

I've got myself a set of Powertrac's Muds... for less than half of the price...

We going tomorrow to Gerotek to test them... this far only drove to Kempton and back cant really say, but comparing to the Maxxis all terrains i had on, there are definitely a new tyre noise from the muds... which Ive expected as I had Maxxis Muds on previously
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Saturday, January 26th 2019, 3:49pm

Nice! Thanks, this will really help.

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Saturday, January 26th 2019, 9:26pm

Over December I met a couple tour guides that run HOT, Soft Sand, low pressures all the time on the NAMIB deserts type guys that only use KM3's as it is the only thing that lasts!?
I agree that if you do not really do overland type traveling that you don't really need these tires but to say that it is simply overpriced and no good is simply disingenuous

PS: I have to ask: why would (you) I need to test the tires on a tar skid pan when I only need (or use ) it on the salt pans of BOT & NAM?
Some of us have it cause it looks good and some of us use it for its technical ability

Fit for purpose, Bud ;-)

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Monday, January 28th 2019, 8:12am

Very True, tyres need to be correct for the specific application and one need to do his/her homework carefully when decide on the correct tyre for your personal application. As you mentioned when you do overlanding it so important to have the correct tyres... couple of years ago we did Van Zyls in Namibia, had Maxxis 942 muds on.... you could see the rock scuff marks against the tyres.... with no punctures. The next year one of my customer drove the same route and lost 3 tyres on the trip... he was using "normal" all terrains.... O yeah tyres choice are extremely important!

I dont doubt that the KM3 are great tyres, as per your experience I have various of friends in the Kalahari that will never ever again use any of the BF products as the chip and tear chunks from the tread in the hot Kalahari terrains and cause punctures where the thread is missing.


By the way, I never said in my post that any tyre is overpriced, I said some tyres are very expensive... Also driving/playing/testing your vehicle's handling on a skid pan can be extremely helpful as you dont just drive on the salt pans of Bots and Nam, obviously you need to get there on normal tar road and for day to day usage, what is your salt pan driving vs tar driving.
Personally I would like to have two sets of tyres... one for my every day driving around as all my vehicles are not just overland vehicle and a second set for weekend play and overlanding

By the way, our driving this weekend at Gerotek was 10% Skidpan.. or even less, rest was rocky man made obstacles, Mud, and natural obstacles.
The tyres really impressed me, at the end of one route there was a natural rock climb just after we drove through water which made all tyres clicked with mud and made the obstacle more difficult, I drove it out first time without align the vehicle for the obstacle, most other vehicles with big brand tyres had 2, 3 or even 4 go's to get on top....

But please... I not saying these tyres are better than anything els... But bang for your buck they not bad... and when you have a limited budget or just refuse to pay crazy money... not a bad option.
What I dont like abut them, I would have liked the sidewalls slightly thicker....
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Monday, January 28th 2019, 10:33am

Awesome. Thanks for the feedback and information
Looks like you had some good fun

I use the K02 as I load quite a bit on long trips and must say they are freaking brilliant. The Tour guides in NAM told me the KM3 story, though I don't use it myself
Just my own observation is that people think they can abuse BFG's, but in actual fact if you treat it wrong you can get a huge amount of failuires (expesially low pressure combined with high speed)

I must concure with you that "normal" All-terrain tyres that comes with the vehicle is simply not good enough to really go off-road as most are 20-80 / 30-70 and not reliable/strong enough

PS: I am lucky ;) in that my Adventure bike is my daily commute so TunaTrokkie only needs to take me to far away places at low speed :thumbsup:

PPS: You are not wrong about the insane prices ;( and if you do not trully require it then don't spend the money just for show (more fuel, noice & less KM's)

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Monday, January 28th 2019, 11:39am

On the tyre topic, recently I saw a couple of posts on Facebook of guys with blowouts on BF's and also think a Cooper... and blaming the brand

My opinion, blowouts are normally caused due to high temperatures due to under inflation or slow punctures. The problem is with a slow puncture you dont realize until its to late and your tyre overheat and rubber separates.
Ive lost a tyre last year and since then installed tyre pressure sensors which have set alarms for pressure and temperature.

Mostly its not the tyre to blame... but rather the pressure or the driver not controlling/checking the pressures
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Tuesday, January 29th 2019, 7:08pm

Missed the part where Cobus said the more expensive brands were no good but I've seen these powertracs on more than one bakkie in Kakakamas and surrounds. Always wondered why they weren't running the premium brands.. probably know a thing.
I've seen Cooper's with sidewall cracks and this I think is also down to guys thinking because they've got the cream of the crop the can drive too long on too low pressures.
My sister went to Sossusvlei via Bots on Dunlop grandtreks.. no puncture

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Sunday, February 10th 2019, 2:25pm

Who sells powertrac?

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Tuesday, February 12th 2019, 4:20pm

I do, what size are you looking for?
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Tuesday, February 12th 2019, 6:41pm

265/70R16

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Wednesday, February 13th 2019, 7:41am

Between R1320 to R1500 depends on the pattern for all terrains
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MT’s

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Today, 7:58am

They dont make a mud in a 265/70R16 only in a 265/75R16 @ R1960 each
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