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Saturday, May 24th 2014, 7:56pm

No diff lock on the 2.5. The diff lock allow you to lock your Xar's back differential to allow the back wheels to pull together instead of separately as I understand it. You use the diff lock in difficult situations where you need more traction for example in loose sand, uphill on loose gravel. Never ever on the tar road and around corners. Nice option to have, just a pity Toyota do not fit it to the 4x2 models.

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Saturday, May 24th 2014, 8:10pm

No more difflock on the new 2014 FT 4x2 :( and think on the late 2013 models.
Only in the 4x4 and will only function in low range and under a certain speed where the rear wheels are lock for that thought situations
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Saturday, May 24th 2014, 8:55pm

Diff-Lock

Yep . . . . the 4x2 FT unfortunately do NOT :nono: come out with diff-lock anymore :( . . . TSA have obviously gone the route of cost-cutting exercises X( to compensate for "other" increases . . . . like salaries, imports etc . . . . :thumbdown:
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Saturday, May 24th 2014, 8:58pm

Diff-Lock

Surely this can be installed as a retrofit unit . . . . but at what price ??? Anybody got ideas . . . . RRR ???
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Saturday, May 24th 2014, 9:49pm

Diff-Lock

Sorry for my ignorance...Is Diff-Lock different to traction control ? i was told by the sales guy that 2.5AT comes with traction control...when i asked about stability in gravel roads....advise please

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Sunday, May 25th 2014, 1:54am

yes its different, diff lock is when you lock two wheels on same axle together and tc is a electronic system that sends power to the wheels with most traction

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Sunday, May 25th 2014, 3:41pm

Diff-Lock - Traction Control - VSC

:hi: Rajesh, Here is an explanation in more detail with regards to the topics of control systems of our vehicles :thumbup: . . . Hope this helps :stick: to understand the workings . . . . ;)

Diff-Lock:
A diff lock or locker is a variation on the standard automotive differential. A locking differential may provide increased traction compared to a standard or "open" differential by restricting each of the two wheels on an axle to the same rotational speed without regard to available traction or differences in resistance seen at each wheel. A locking differential is designed to overcome the chief limitation of a standard open differential by essentially "locking" both wheels on an axle together as if on a common shaft. This forces both wheels to turn in unison, regardless of the traction (or lack thereof) available to either wheel individually. When the differential is unlocked (open differential), it allows each wheel to rotate at different speeds (such as when negotiating a turn), thus avoiding tire scuffing. An open (or unlocked) differential always provides the same torque (rotational force) to each of the two wheels, on that axle. So although the wheels can rotate at different speeds, they apply the same rotational force, even if one is entirely stationary, and the other spinning. (Equal torque, unequal rotational speed). By contrast, a locked differential forces both left and right wheels on the same axle to rotate at the same speed under nearly all circumstances, without regard to tractional differences seen at either wheel. Therefore, each wheel can apply as much rotational force as the traction under it will allow, and the torques on each side-shaft will be unequal. (Unequal torque, equal rotational speeds). Exceptions apply to automatic lockers, discussed below. A locked differential can provide a significant traction advantage over an open differential, but only when the traction under each wheel differs significantly.

Traction Control:
Traction control on the other hand helps to limit tyre slip in acceleration on slippery surfaces. In the past, drivers had to feather the gas pedal to prevent the drive wheels from spinning wildly on slippery surfaces. Many of today's vehicles employ electronic controls to limit power delivery for the driver, eliminating wheel slip and helping the driver accelerate under control. Powerful rear-drive cars from the sixties often had a primitive form of traction control called a limited slip rear differential. Sometimes referred to as positive traction, a limited-slip rear axle will mechanically transfer power to the rear wheel with the most traction, helping to reduce, but not eliminate wheel spin. While limited-slip rear axles are still in use in many front- and rear-drive vehicles today, the device can't completely eliminate wheel slip. Hence, a more sophisticated system was needed. Therefor the new electronic traction control systems. In modern vehicles, traction-control systems utilize the same wheel-speed sensors employed by the antilock braking system. These sensors measure differences in rotational speed to determine if the wheels that are receiving power have lost traction. When the traction-control system determines that one wheel is spinning more quickly than the others, it automatically "pumps" the brake to that wheel to reduce its speed and lessen wheel spin. In most cases, individual wheel braking is enough to control wheel slip. However, some traction-control systems also reduce engine power to the slipping wheels. On a few of these vehicles, drivers may sense pulsations of the accelerator pedal when the system is reducing engine power much like a brake pedal pulsates when the antilock braking system is working. Many people mistakenly believe that traction control will prevent their vehicle from getting stuck in the snow. This couldn't be further from the truth. Traction control does not have the ability to increase traction; it just attempts to prevent a vehicle's wheels from spinning.

Vehicle Stability Control (VSC):
VSC helps prevent wheels from slipping sideways when cornering or sudden steering.
VSC is a system that helps prevent side skids and helps to stabilize the vehicle while turning on a curve. According to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration's (NHTSA) report, vehicles equipped with VSC compared to those without it can effectively reduce single-vehicle accidents by 35% for automobiles and 67% for Sport Utility Vehicles (SUV). When the vehicle senses a loss of traction or a slip, braking is automatically applied to all 4 individual wheels and engine power is reduced to help secure the safety of the vehicle. For example, if the steering wheel refuses to turn from over-speeding (under-steering), the vehicle will take control to steer toward the inner curve. Also, when the vehicle begins to spin from abrupt steering handling (over-steering), the vehicle will take control to steer toward the outer curve. VSC is designed to help the driver maintain vehicle control, and it is not a substitute for safe driving practices. Also, the system will not be able to surpass the performance of the quality of the tyres.

None of the above "driver assistants" are a substitute for reckless driving or any form of "substance" abuse . . . . . Be a safe driver at all times, respect other road users and help to make our roads a safer place to enjoy our vehicles
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Sunday, May 25th 2014, 3:55pm

Thanx DJ
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Sunday, May 25th 2014, 3:58pm

Ek wil nog my kar op jack en kyk of die mk2 tc het

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Sunday, May 25th 2014, 4:20pm

Fox
Het die tc nie gewoonlik n aan en af knoppie binne nie?
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Sunday, May 25th 2014, 4:22pm

Die vsc het ja maar nie die tc nie, as daar is. Die unitrans website se die fortuner van mk2 af het auto traction control maar sien niks op die toyota website

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Sunday, May 25th 2014, 4:26pm

http://www.um.co.za/specifications/toyota_fortuner_3_0_d-4d_4x4_(2009).aspx

Link na die website, die is op die laat 2009 model.

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Sunday, May 25th 2014, 4:29pm

Diff-Lock

Thanks DJ.... for a detailed explanation. so now i'm clear that Fortner 2.5 4X2 comes with traction and VSC and not diff lock....

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Sunday, May 25th 2014, 4:35pm

Ya all the new 4x2 models comes out with no difflock

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Sunday, May 25th 2014, 5:41pm

Ya all the new 4x2 models comes out with no difflock

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Stupid move by Toyota. But I think you can have it as an optional extra.
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Sunday, May 25th 2014, 6:00pm

Or just get the 4x4 lol

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Sunday, May 25th 2014, 6:20pm

Or just get the 4x4 lol

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or get an older model with difflock and 4x4 great idea FOX 8)
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Sunday, May 25th 2014, 6:23pm

Always a good idea haha

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Sunday, May 25th 2014, 6:58pm

Toyota was dom om nie n 4x2 in te sit in die 2.5 nie.
Sou prys rerig so n groot verskil gemaak het?

Met al die goeie discounts wat mense nou op voertuie kry, sou dit sekerlik nie n verskil gemaak het nie.
Het onlangs baie geld spandeer op nuwe voertuie vir my firma. Het 4 quotes gekry en elkeen het n verskillende prys ge offer. Almal met groot discounts.
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Sunday, May 25th 2014, 7:01pm

Dit is nou blykbaar baie goeie tyd om toyota te koop, ou hier by toyota gese dat hulle sit landswyd met ek weet nie hoeveel miljoen rand se karre te veel op hulle vloere

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